'Digging for the
O mankind! We have created you from a male and a female,
and made you into nations and tribes, that you may know one another. Verily,
the most honorable of you with Allaah is that (believer) who has At-Taqwa
[i.e. one of the Muttaqun (pious - see V.2:2). Verily, Allaah is
All-Knowing, All-Aware." (Al-Qur'an, Surah Al-Hujurat 49:13)
This is an American Indian Muslim's response to a tale that has been spread
in the name of Islam and Native Americans since 1996. My name is Hasan
Grooms. I am a PeeDee Indian. I have ancestry from other American Indian
Nations as well, and I have been Muslim since 1990 CE.
I have decided that perhaps the best way to assault the falsehoods in Mahir
Abdal Razzaq El's "Digging for the Red Roots" is by taking this article
apart piece-by-piece and refuting it's false statements and blatant lies and
clarify it's inaccuracies and exaggerations, wa Allaahul musta'an.
Before we proceed, I want to state that this treatise is aimed at Muslims to
encourage them to cease spreading false tales like "Digging for the Red
Roots" and to take a more serious approach to investigating information that
is spread regarding both Islam and American Indians. This treatise is not
intended as a form of da'wah to American Indians.
We would also hope that Muslims would be willing to take a genuine interest
in American Indians and to develop relationships and to have dialogue and
interaction with them, and to learn about American Indians from American
Indians themselves without relying on books, movies or the internet. And
finally, not to approach Indians or da'wah towards Indians with a
paternalistic attitude. We are not cave dwellers or stuck in the past. We
are just as aware of the world, sciences, history, etc. as anyone else is.
Some non-Muslim American Indians, who may read this treatise, may be
offended by my assertions in this treatise that Islam is the only true path
and that other ways are upon falsehood, this is my belief as a Muslim. The
point I wish to make is that it is forbidden in Islam to mix different
spiritual beliefs just as it is also highly looked down upon in American
Indian spiritualities, religions and traditions.
The path of Islam was the path chosen for me by the Creator, just as other
American Indians are being guided to this path and are embracing Islam, for
example, brother Russ Redner (Abdal Razzaq) who has been a long time
activist in the American Indian Movement (AIM) as well as other Indigenous
activist groups, and the head of the Leonard Peltier Defense Committee
(selected by Leonard himself).
Islam is not a religion that has come to change the cultures of the people.
It has come for the purpose for which all mankind has been created, which is
that all of mankind should worship the Creator alone, without ascribing or
associating partners with Him or worshiping others besides Him. You can look
all over the Islamic world and see that different Muslims peoples maintain
their own unique cultures. At the same time, Islam gives all oppressed
peoples a viable means of "getting the man's foot off our neck" and
confronting the social, economic and spiritual ills that plagues much of our
And so, let us proceed:
Mahir says (which will be quoted from here on out),
My name is Mahir Abdal Razzaq El
In the past, he has related this exact same story at a masjid in the
Southwest, word for word, except using a different name. This detail may not
be all that important but may give a clue to something more sinister behind
this: DECEPTION! That particular masjid was one of the few who actually
removed the article after being informed of it's falsehood, and may Allaah
reward them. But anyway:
El is commonly used by those influenced by the teachings of the
pseudo-Islamic cult - the MST (Moorish Science Temple) - as a last name, El
meaning "God". This is similar to the teachings of the 5%ers (Five
Percenters), a.k.a NGE (Nation of Gods and Earths), who are an offshoot of
the MST and the NOI (Nation of Islam), who refer to one another as "god",
however, in the case of the 5%ers, they tend to make their last names
"Allah", meaning 'God', e.g. Kareem "Allah". Bey is another common last name
used by followers of the MST.
and I am a Cherokee Blackfoot American Indian
I am really quite surprised, due to Mahir's "Moorish Science" influence,
that he did not say something more stupid like, "I am a Cherokee Blackfoot
American Indian and the original American Indians were BLACK! And "red"
Indians are actually the result of the racial mixing between the Black
OLMECS and the Chinese." That would be more in line with the rhetoric of the
followers of "Moorish Science" and it's offshoots. Allaahu â€کalam, perhaps
the article was actually edited by the "Message" to remove the more
For all intents and purposes, Mahir looks to be an Afro-American (see
http://www.blackcon sciousness. com/media/ GRID_PATTERN. ram and also
http://www.blackcon sciousness. com/media/ MILITARY_ MAHIR.ram ) which
doesn't mean anything necessarily in and of itself because to us Indians,
Indians are Indian regardless of skin color, but Mahir is found most
frequently among Afrocentrist, pseudo-Muslims and other wannabe Indians, not
genuine Native / American Indians. However, let's look into this Cherokee /
In reality, this is a very unlikely mixture of American Indian ancestry.
Before the arrival of Europeans, the Cherokee laid claim to an area which
today would include the states of NC, SC, VA, WV, KY, GA, AL and TN. Shortly
before "Removal", the Cherokee's diminished territorial claims only included
small portions of NC, TN, GA, and AL. During "Removal", Cherokees were
forcibly marched to eastern Oklahoma. Cherokees who fled before "Removal"
went to AK, LA and TX. Still others went as far south as Mexico. A small
faction of Cherokees remained in the east hiding in a small area in the
mountains of western North Carolina. Today they can be found in and around
the area that was "reserved" for them, known as the "Qualla Boundary",
a.k.a. the Cherokee Indian Reservation of the Eastern Band of Cherokee.
As far as the Blackfeet, they still remain in the area of their ancestral
homeland which today is in the northwest portion of the state of Montana in
the USA and the southern portion of the province of Alberta in Canada.
There are no apparent connections between the Cherokee and the Blackfeet.
The language of the Cherokee is an Iroquoian language. The language of the
Blackfeet is an Algonquian language. They have not shared any traditional
tribal territories, nor have they shared tribal territory after the
"Removal" of the Cherokee. Traditional religion of the Blackfeet includes
the Sun Dance, whereas traditional Cherokee religion includes the Stomp
Dance. So where is the connection?
The connection is very easy to make if you believe that American Indian
languages, cultures, spiritualities and traditions is something monolithic
and all inclusive. However, there are over 500 distinct Indian Nations in
the US and Canada, each with their own cultures, languages and traditions,
etc. There is no such thing as an "American Indian / Native American"
culture, spirituality or language. This kind of assumption (i.e., Indians
are all the same) is what produces the stereotypes that cause wannabe
Indians, "Indian" Barbie, and "Indian" Nativity sets to flourish, let alone
the perpetrators racism and plain old greed.
Needless to say, there is the possibility of a Cherokee / Blackfoot mixture
if a Cherokee citizen and a Blackfoot citizen had a relationship that bore
offspring from the union of these two Nations. The problem is, however, the
enormous distribution of claims of such a union. The claim of either
Cherokee ancestry or Blackfoot ancestry or a combination of the two is
something widely spread in the east and southeast of the US, even though
such a union is highly unlikely, yet it's claim is spread on such an
As far as the Cherokee are concerned, then there is a very fitting saying:
"Everyone and their momma". Claims to Cherokee ancestry are widespread and
laughable, although not very funny. It seems as almost everyone has a
"Cherokee Princess grandmother" or Cherokee great uncle or grandfather who
was a "chief", "warrior" or "medicine man". Cherokee ancestry is very well
documented, so if someone can make the claim of Cherokee ancestry there
should really not be much of a problem for them to enroll, especially with
such low blood quantum requirements. And if your blood quantum is so low
that you can't enroll, then why bother claiming to be a Cherokee?
Most of the Cherokee claimers usually have some sort of tale to explain why
they can't legally claim to be Cherokee such as their ancestors separated
from the "Trail of Tears" or they hid out in the woods, etc., however, these
are simply tales and claims. Or, if they haven't been able to come up with a
tale yet, they try to sidestep or avoid the issue altogether, or say "I am
Cherokee in my heart", which is really absurd. "Cherokee" is not a religion
that you convert to. How can you convert to being "Indian"?
And then there is the infamous ascription to being "Blackfoot". This is a
very strange claim, especially due to it's persistency in the East and
Southeast so many hundreds of miles away from the tribe of it's namesake.
What seems to be the truth surrounding this appellation is that it was
devised to explain away certain racial features or to bury family secrets.
Blackfoot seems to be used equally by both blacks and whites. It has been
used by blacks to explain their "good hair", light eyes, light skin and
"high cheek bones". And by whites to explain their darker skin, dark hair
and of course, "high cheek bones". It was used to hide African blood within
white families and Caucasian blood within black families.
One clue to this enigma is the fact that it was, at one time in American
history, illegal to be an Indian and remain east of the Mississippi. If
anything, Indians who could "pass" would have claimed to be "white", or, if
they couldn't pass, they would have claimed to be "Black Dutch", "Black
Irish" or even "black", than to have to face "Removal", repression and
further victimization as an Indian. And while such racial designations as
"Black Dutch", "Black Irish", etc. could have been used to hide Indian
blood, a designation such as "Blackfoot" never could. So "Blackfoot" is an
anomaly even among other fictitious racial classifications.
Another clue is the fact that no one claiming Blackfoot ancestry in the East
and Southeast has ever been able to successfully trace their lineages back
to the Blackfeet. This is also overwhelmingly true for those claiming
Cherokee ancestry, the result of which is usually those individuals starting
their own tribe, or joining other fictitious, wannabe tribes, and creating
their own "Native American culture" and spirituality, which is
misappropriated from American Indian nations, distorted, mixed and abused,
all the while claiming to honor those who they are "imitating". Many times
these same people are also able to get their hands on funding and services
that are specifically set aside for real Indians (who really need it!). They
also make the process of legitimate American Indians gaining Federal
Recognition that much harder and longer due to so many of them petitioning
the Federal Government to gain status as recognized American Indian tribes
and nations. So do they honor us or harm us?
In the Messenger of Allaah's , sallallaahu alayhi was sallam, Last Sermon,
he says, "the Curse of Allaah is on those who would claim a lineage other
than their own." This is more than a sufficient warning for Muslims not to
go around "playing Indian".
who is Muslim.
Mahir is a Muur (Moor) as you will see below at the end of this treatise
(see "Muur from Mahir")(update - Mahir is actually a Black Hebrew Israelite
- see the update at the end of this article. I keep this article as it is
because the theology is born from the same seeds with only minor
differences) . These "Moors" are not Muslims but pseudo-Muslims who chase
after esotericism, junk science, junk knowledge, junk history, and
pseudo-esoteric- kufr based Isl.. (well, I don't know what to call it
because it is certainly not Islam!). They are not Muslims! There is
information available from a variety of sources that explains why they are
not Muslims so I will not get into it here. However, I would like to point
out one of their beliefs, which is that they believe Timothy Drew, a.k.a.
"Noble Drew Ali" was the final Messenger and that he came with his own
Qur'an. This is a belief that would negate the Islam of anyone claiming it
or believing in it.
It is also highly probable that Mahir is more specifically a Nuwaubian, who
are highly influenced by the teachings of the Moorish Science Temple and who
also call themselves "Moors". I base this on the fact that Mahir refers to "dynoids
(dinoids) and reptoids" (see Muur from Mahir) which is more specific to
Nuwaubian teachings than it is to "Moorish Science".
Nuwaubians are the present incarnation of a cult that has been known by many
different names and is continuously changing and contradicting is theology,
since the late 1960's. They are led by Dwight D. York, a.k.a. "Dr. York",
who has had numerous identities and personas, including al-Masih, al-Mahdi,
and even God. One of the names which the group was known as in the past is
the "Ansaaru Allah" community. Their false ascription to Islam, during that
particular manifestation, was exposed by Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips in his
book "The Ansaar Cult".
In general, the Afrocentrists making these claims of being Muslim American
Indians / Native Americans are people influenced by "Moorish" teachings.
They are known as Native American Moors, Yamassee Native American Moors of
the Creek Nation (The Creeks already busted them for their deception.), the
Washi taw de Dugdamoundyah (Supposedly an ancient "Black Indian" word
meaning "dug the mound". Yah? I thought they were "mound builders" not
"mound diggers".), and others. They even claim that they are the "real"
Indians who basically taught Indians everything they know and have more of a
birthright to America than American Indians . They make similar claims with
Asians, Europeans and others, the only difference being that these
Afrocentrists do not usurp the identities of Europeans, Asians, etc.
They harbor a separatist agenda and philosophy. Therefore, their claims to
being Indians are from the roots of their Afrocentric racial superiority
complex and their desire to be sovereign, separate entities here in the US.
It is also to claim immunity from prosecution due to the criminal activity
and fraud that plagues their cults and their followers, being that they are
liars and criminals at heart and nurture such anti-social, criminal
behavior. Some cases in point are the criminal cases of Dwight D. "Malachi
Z." York (who has too many names and titles to enumerate) and the fraud
cases of "Her Majestic Imperial Highness, Empress" Verdiacee ""Tiari" Washi
taw-Turner (Tunica)" Goston "El-Bey", let alone the numerous murder and
other criminal cases surrounding these cults and their followers. They use
their claims of being American Indians and "Moors" so that they may claim
immunity from prosecution. Real Indians know there is no such thing as
American Indian immunity from prosecution, and sovereignty is at the
discretion of the US Government. In other words, "what sovereignty" ?
I am known as Eagle Sun Walker.
Mahir may be known as Eagle Sun Walker to other wannabe Indians, but real
Indians do not go around with names like Eagle Sun Walker, that is going
just a little too far. Besides, Indian names that may be similar are usually
more simple and actually have realistic attributes. "Eagle Sun Walker" is
too "Hollywood-ish" and too "storybook tale-ish" to be believable. How many
eagles do you know who walk on the Sun!? Real Indians have real (and
realistic) Indian names and they are given to them usually by their
respected Indian elders and family in their own language, not English!
I serve as a Pipe Carrier Warrior
Well, Cherokees do not have "pipe carriers". That is not a part of their
tradition. If there are any Cherokee pipe carriers, they are practicing
other nation's traditions. Unfortunately, tales of Cherokee pipe carriers
are not uncommon due to wannabes hijacking Cherokee identity as well as
(generally) Lakota religion, and usually "Plains Indian" dress. Pipe
carrying is something sacred among SOME Native religions and is an integral
part of those religions. Any and every Tom, Dick, Harry and Mahir just can't
go and become a pipe carrier. Besides, Mahir, who do you carry the pipe for?
Which Nation honored you to carry the pipe for their ceremonies? It surely
wasn't the Cherokee.
The mixing of Native religions and the mixing of Islam is something highly
looked down upon by Indians, and in Islam it is kufr which takes the
perpetrator outside of the fold of Islam, i.e. they are no longer Muslims.
"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of
him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." (Aali Imran 3:85)
"And mix not truth with falsehood while you know (the truth)." (Al-Baqarah
Warrior? I can only shake my head. Warrior is not just some title you are at
liberty to label yourself as because you "feel" it. Don't you actually have
to physically engage in combat, in a battle, to be a warrior? And real
warriors do not only engage in combat or carry weapons but they actually do
the things for their people that are going to be a benefit to them, even
little things like chopping the firewood for their elders or making sure the
less fortunate ones will have something to eat. So does Mahir's perpetuating
stereotypes and making false claims do anything to benefit the Cherokee,
American Indians in general or Muslims? Generally, warriors in Indian
societies come from the best of their men, and that would not include liars,
so that seems to exclude Mahir.
for the Northeastern Band of Cherokee Indians in New York City.
This causes me to remember the Paceآ® Picante Sauce commercials where some
cowboys exclaimed with inquisition, "New York City!?!?"
There is no such band, tribe or nation that exists among the Cherokees, and
this "Northeastern Band" is just one more of over 200 wannabe "Cherokee
tribes" claiming to be Cherokee. The "Sioux" come in second place for the
number of wannabe tribes claiming some sort of connection to them.
The Cherokees have never resided in New York as a tribal entity. This "band"
of wannabes are headquartered in the "Boogie Down" Bronx in their so-called
"urban reservation" . They are a group of Afro, Hispanic and Puerto
Rican-American wannabes who attend Pow Wows and Drums with their
Euro-American wannabe counterparts. You will seldom find any real Indians
among these wannabe Pow Wows and Drums, and we are never invited as that
would also invite exposure to their falsehood. Most members of this "band"
seem to "become Cherokee" through "adoption".
The "band's chief" is named Okena Tsali Littlehawk. He is an Afro-American
who is involved with a group named the "Order of the Feather Fraternity"
(a.k.a. Feather Fraternity / Feathermen) who take young Afro-American males
to a summer camp named Camp Minisink, during an initiation period or "rites
of passage" where they shave their heads bald and "play Indian" for the
summer ( http://www.featherm en.org/photos/ tapout04/ Mvc-031s. jpg ).
The "order's" logo is a tipi between two pine trees. This is really odd, as
tipis are usually typical of the "Plain's Indian" stereotype, and New York
is certainly a long way away from the Plains. However, for those wishing to
propagate stereotypes and falsehoods, little details like this is of no
Okena is "Chief Feather" in the Feather Fraternity - meaning he is their
"head man" in propagating these stereotypes against Indians. Okena also
makes it a point to label himself ukuwiyuhi, which means "principle chief".
This is not a proper title for the tribal leader of a "band" but of a
nation, but these "Northeastern Cherokee" claim they are a "band". He makes
labeling himself ukuwiyuhi a point to the extent that uku (chief) seems to
be part of his legal name as he is listed in the phone directory and
official records as Uku O. Littlehawk. Most chiefs do not make "chief" as a
part of their legal names, it is merely a title and designation. But the
point is, if he was an actual "Cherokee chief" he would have seen through
these stereotypes and put a stop to them, not take a lead role in
Okena was also on a Tupac Shakur memorial compilation titled "The Rose That
Grew From Concrete". He was featured on the track "The Sun & The Moon" which
was said in a broken type of Cherokee that sounded "rehearsed"or "practiced"
and "indiany" and the inflection was off, kind of like in movies where
Native languages are spoken in a manner that is supposed to make it sound
authentic (heavy and slow, i.e. Tonto-style) and would never make a
difference to those who are not speakers of the Cherokee language. Also some
of the words he said in Cherokee were wrong. The main problem is that what
the story is relating in Cherokee and what he expresses as it's meaning in
English is way off. It is an old Cherokee story relating to a man and a
woman and he obviously doesn't understand the analogy. It's an Indian "thang",
so to speak. (I do not speak Cherokee and this information was provided to
me by Robert Chastain, a Cherokee, and head of the South Carolina Chapter of
the American Indian Movement, after conferring with him on the details of
that particular recording, "The Sun & The Moon".)
There are other Muslims in our group.
Well, if these "Muslims" are upon the same creed as Mahir, they are not
Muslims and it is already obvious that this group are not Indians, let alone
For the most part, not many people are aware of the Native American contact
with Islam that began over one thousand years ago by some of the early
Muslim travelers who visited us. Some of these Muslim travelers ended up
living among our people.
Yes, unfortunately this is true, and may be one of the few authentic
statements in the whole of the treatise, "Digging for the Red Roots". This
information is something that is not widely known among Indians, Americans
or Muslims, and in some cases may be purposely being concealed. There is
enough authentic and scholarly references to Islamic presence in the
Americas before the arrival of Columbus without the need to embellish,
exaggerate and lie concerning such information.
For most Muslims and non-Muslims of today, this type of information is
unknown and has never been mentioned in any of the history books.
I wouldn't say never mentioned, more like... not widely available. So where
can this information be found? Few scholars have taken up this task, and
probably one of the best books relating to this subject would be by Dr.
Berry Fell entitled "Saga America".
Much of the information regarding Pre-Columbian Islamic contact would be
ignored unless someone is specifically looking for it.
Most Americans seem as if they would rather accept the status-quo historical
indoctrination rather than be exposed to something that could potentially
"rock their world". Not only does the typical US history textbooks leave out
such information as Pre-Columbian contact in the Americas by other nations
and peoples, but they also leave out large, relevant, factual portions of
the history that they do address and would rather report tales of George
Washington "chopping down the cherry tree" than truthful "no holds barred"
Just look at the American Indian and the official version of "American
History". They have pretty much relegated us to museums, tipis and
buckskins. They make our history seem to be nothing more than attacking
wagon trains, Indian Wars, and how to plant corn. Or they make it seem our
history is nothing more than meeting and greeting the "Pilgrims",
celebrating "Thanksgiving" , Squanto, how Europeans were the greatest thing
to benefit Indians since fry bread, and some more planting corn. All depends
on which version of history they want to offer.
There are many documents, treaties, legislation and resolutions that were
passed between 1600s and 1800s that show that Muslims were in fact here and
were very active in the comunities in which they lived.
These treaties were initiated between the British Colonial Government, and
then the American Government after them, between those governments and
Muslim Nations and their citizens as will be shown. This does not imply that
these particular nations had contacts or influence upon American Indian
nations, but it does prove that Muslims have had a presence in this country
even in Colonial times. So Muslims have just as much right to be here in
America as some Euro-Americans whose families came over later than these
Treaties such as Peace and Friendship that was signed on the Delaware River
in the year 1787 bear the signatures of Abdel-Khak and Muhammad Ibn
Abdullah. This treaty details our continued right to exist as a community in
the areas of commerce, maritime shipping, current form of government at that
time which was in accordance with Islam.
This treaty was a part of the Barbary Treaties (i.e. US treaties with North
African nations). This particular treaty was between the United States and
Morocco, which was written June 23rd,1786 CE (25 Shaban, 1200 AH) and was
later ratified by the US in 1787.
Details of this treaty may be found under the heading "Treaty with Morocco,
June 28 and July 15, 1786" at the following web link:
http://www.yale. edu/lawweb/ avalon/diplomacy /barbary/ barmenu.htm
As you will see, this treaty has nothing to do with American Indians or the
forgotten, lost sons of Muslim nations. It is a treaty between nations (the
US and Morocco) on behalf of those nations and it's citizens.
I believe what Mahir is actually referring to is the "Treaty of Peace and
Commerce" of 1787 ( http://www.yale. edu/lawweb/ avalon/diplomacy /barbary/
bar1786a. htm ) which was negotiated by Al-Tahir ibn Abdul Haq Fannis (Abdel
Khak) and Thomas Barclay and later ratified and signed by Sultan Sidi
Muhammad ibn Abdullah, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, and George Washington.
What I mentioned above also applies to this treaty as well. It is a treaty
between nations (the US and Morocco) and has nothing to do with American
Indians or the lost, forgotten sons of Muslim Nations.
The above deception is part and parcel of the "Moors" shenanigans. These
particular treaties have been used by "Moors" as "evidence" in yet another
attempt to claim sovereignty from the US and immunity from it's laws by the
claim that these Afrocentrists are actually Moroccan citizens and under the
authority of the Moroccan Emperor and the authority of these treaties,
however, even if they were Moors, the treaties show that they are subject to
the laws and penalties of the US if abroad in that land and vice versa. The
above treaty of "Peace and Commerce" was for a period of 50 years, so it is
really quite irrelevant other than to demonstrate a relationship between the
US and Morocco.
And, as could be expected, these Afrocentrists claim that they are the real
Moors and that "the real Moors were BLACK!".
According to a federal court case from the Continental Congress, we help put
the breath of life in to the newly framed constitution. All of the documents
are presently in the National Archives as well as the Library of Congress.
This statement is so vague it can not even be researched. It is nothing more
than an empty claim. What Federal Court case from the Continental Congress
is the statement referring to? Do you realize how many documents are in the
National Archives and Library of Congress? So where would someone
researching this even begin to look and what would they be looking for? In
addition to all of that, who is "we" referring to - American Indians,
Muslims or American Indian Muslims?
If you have access to records in the state of South Carolina, read the Moors
Sundry Act of 1790.
The Moors Sundry Act was an act passed by the South Carolina State
Legislature granting the subjects of the Sultan of Morocco, residing in
South Carolina, the same rights as their "white" counterparts, even to the
extent of being jurors. This document is available in the SC State Archives
in Columbia, SC. Again, nothing to do with American Indians, American Indian
Muslims or the lost, forgotten sons of Muslim Nations.
The Moors Sundry Act is used as another justification for these Afrocentric,
pseudo-Islamic "Moors" to claim sovereignty and immunity from the laws of
the land, but even this document simply grants the Moors rights equal to
other "white" citizens of South Carolina, which, back then, would have been
considered a special status, but is now common law, except for the Indians
of South Carolina though.
In a future article, Inshallah, I will go in to more details about the
various tribes, their languages; in which some are influenced by Arabic,
Persian, Hebrew words.
Alhamdulillaah, he never wrote a future article. Perhaps he had ran out of
hot air to blow.
As far as the languages go, then there is a necessity for scholars who are
both proficient in Arabic, Persian, Hebrew as well as the different Native
languages to compare those words and languages. Perhaps words can be
similar, but that does not necessarily mean the words have the same meaning
which would be necessary if you make the claim that Arabic words are found
in Native languages. That Arabic sounding word could just as well be native
to that Native language.
I do not know of one scholar who is both proficient in Arabic and any one of
the 100's of Native languages. Native language is not something widely
taught or sought after, and many tribes are having to make gallant efforts
in trying to preserve their languages.
I have read where Dr. Berry Fell mentions that the Pima seem to have an
Arabic influence upon their language but nothing was really offered in order
to substantiate this claim.
Inshaa Allaah, some Muslims can take up the task of investigating these
matters more thoroughly. But it has been many of my brother's and sister's
gullibility, and their having ulterior motives regarding this subject, that
has caused them to spread and believe such tales as "Digging for the Red
Roots" in the first place. I hope in the future my brothers and sisters will
be more willing to investigate such things instead of accepting them at face
Any person who wishes to engage in such research shouldn't approach it with
an agenda or try to pound a square peg into a round hole. The Muslim is
truthful and so should be his research.
Almost all of the tribes vocabulary include the word Allah.
Again, just another baseless claim. Which tribes have the word Allah as part
of their vocabulary? And who went among the more than 500 tribes to see? And
as for the tribes that have the word "Allah" in their vocabulary, does Allah
in their language mean the same as Allah in the Arabic language?
The traditional dress code for Indian women includes the kimah and long
Some may say that I am nit-picking, but what is a kimah? I do not think that
Mahir actually knows that a Muslim woman's "head covering" is called a
khimar because he is not even a Muslim, and probably only heard it in
passing and that is why he referred to it as a kimah, unless he means that
traditional Indian dress includes a cap (kimah) for women instead of a
Muslim woman's traditional khimar, which he assumes to be "traditional
I have never witnessed such a thing as Indian women wearing Islamic "caps",
but Allaahu â€کalam. I believe the "kimah" he is referring to are actually
quilts and any other typical head covering which were worn by Indian women
in cold weather. Head coverings are not unique just to Muslim women.
Indian women, including Cherokees, take great pride in their hair and
generally do not cover it up unless there is a need to such as bad weather.
I have never seen any Indian woman with her hair covered, in the past or
present, unless it was due to cold, inclement weather and dusty
As far as long dresses are concerned, this has not always necessarily been
the case. Our way of dress has evolved just as we have evolved (And no, I am
not referring to Darwinism.). How Indian woman dressed during early contact
is different from how they dressed in the 1700's, is different from how they
dressed in the 1800's, is different even in how they dress today. So
"traditional" dress is not always necessarily traditional. Even the
"traditional" Cherokee "tear dress" is not traditional as it does not even
pre-date the Trail of Tears, i.e. "Removal", which occurred in the late
1830's. The tear dress of today is fashioned after a tear dress that has
it's origin from the late 1960's, and has undergone modifications even to
For men, standard fare is turbans and long tops that come down to the knees.
If you were to look at any of the old books on Cherokee clothing up until
the time of 1832, you will see the men wearing turbans and the women wearing
long head coverings.
Long shirts were not uncommon back then and had nothing at all to do with
Indians or Islam. Those types of shirts were typical depending on someone's
style of dress. Those long tops actually had a European origin. Today, the
"traditional" shirt of a Cherokee man is the "ribbon shirt" which definitely
is not long or coming down to the knees.
As far as the turbans are concerned, this was adapted by the Cherokee after
a delegation of them visited England's Royal Family and decided they should
cover up their tattooed heads because the English were terrified by such a
sight, so they borrowed the wearing of the turban from some royal servants
who happened to be Muslims from India. The Cherokees brought back this form
of head dress with them and it ended up becoming fashionable among the
Cherokees. The Cherokee gave the turban their own unique "style".
To prove this point that the turban was not indigenous to the Cherokee, we
can look at some pictures of Cherokees before the adoption of turbans:
Three of seven young Cherokees, who were escorted by Sir Alexander Cuming to
England in 1730 to meet King George II. The Cherokees signed articles of
friendship and commerce with representatives of the British Crown. One of
the Cherokees was Oukanaekah, later named Attakullaculla or the Little
Ostenaco was a war chief who, in 1756, joined the English in a campaign
against the French-allied Shawnee during the Seven Years War ("French and
Indian War). His warriors were abandoned by the British troops when their
provisions were lost while crossing a swollen river. His band "confiscated"
horses from the ungrateful Virginians who retaliated by killing 24 of his
party. A period of retaliatory raids began between the Cherokee and
colonists. In 1762, the Cherokee captured Fort Loundon (near present Venore
TN). Eventually, devastation of the Cherokee country by large colonial
armies forced the Cherokee to sue for peace. Lt. Henry Timberlake
volunteered to stay with the Cherokee to improve Cherokee-English relations.
Ostenaco, along with Stalking Turkey and Pouting Pigeon, visited London in
1762 to see King George III accompanied by Lt. Henry Timberlake and
interpreter, William Shorey, who died in route.
Cumnacatogue (also known as Cunne Shote, Stalking Turkey or Standing Turkey)
was one of three Cherokee chiefs who traveled to London in 1762 to see King
George III. He was the nephew of the Chief "Old Hop" who was also know as
Standing Turkey. (Pictures taken from www.cherokeehistory .com)
I believe Mahir gets his assumption of a Cherokee Islamic dress from a
famous painting called the "Trail of Tears" by Robert Lindneux in 1942 (see
below). Notice the women's head coverings. What must be understood is that
these 12,000 or so Cherokees were forcibly marched from the Southern
Appalachian Mountains some 1200 miles to eastern Oklahoma, in the middle of
winter, losing over 4000 Cherokee kin and family members along the way. Keep
in mind that this is an artist's conceptualization of his own interpretation
of what a scene from the "Trail of Tears" may have looked like, and it is
not based on an actual eyewitness account by the artist as the painting was
created over 100 years later!
(Click on the image to view larger image.)
"Trail of Tears" as painted by Robert Lindneux in 1942 CE.
The last Cherokee chief who had a Muslim name was Ramadhan Ibn Wati of the
Cherokees in 1866.
It is hard to tell whether Mahir is referring to a "last Cherokee chief" or
a "last Cherokee chief with a Muslim name". There is no "last Cherokee
chief" as the Cherokee still have "chiefs" to this day. As far as the "last
Cherokee chief with a Muslim name", then who were the other Cherokee chiefs
who supposedly had Muslim names?
There is no such Cherokee chief named Ramadhan Ibn Wati in all of Cherokee
history. The chief of the Cherokee in 1866, who I believe Mahir is alluding
to, was General Stand Watie, who, although being chosen by a faction
"mix-bloods" as their chief, was not the principle chief of the Cherokees -
which was Chief John Ross.
John Ross' Cherokee name was Guwisguwu. He was born of a Scottish father and
a 1/4 Cherokee mother. And, like the overwhelming majority of mixed-bloods,
was a Christian, to the extent of being a professor of that religion.
Stand Watie's father's name was Oo-wati in Cherokee, meaning "the ancient
one". His father was also a Christian and went by his Christian name of
David Oowatie. His mother was half-Cherokee, and was also a Christian and
known by the name Susannah. Chief Stand Watie's Cherokee name was
Takertawker, which means "he stands". Stand Watie, who was also a Christian,
was given the Christian name of Isaac, however, he preferred the English
version of his name "Stand" to the name Isaac. Later, the "Oo" was dropped
from "Oo-watie" and the family name became Watie (sometimes being spelled
It is amazing that an Afrocentrist would use a Confederate General, fighting
to defend the institution of chattel slavery of Africans and their
descendants, among other things, to propagate an Islamic / Cherokee
connection. I believe he makes this exaggeration due to Stand Watie having a
son by the name Saladin, the anglicized version of the Arabic name Salah
ud-Deen. The Watie family were a Christian Cherokee family, as were the
majority of Cherokee families, which was one of the reasons of so many
Cherokees adopting the institution of chattel slavery, while it was the
"traditionalists" who had opposed chattel slavery. Also, Saladin was not all
that uncommon of a name back then. I have been able to find at least four
references to Cherokees named Saladin.
I have no idea how the name Ramadhan was twisted around to refer to Chief
Stand Watie. It is obviously an outright lie and the only source for it is
Mahir himself. If anything it would seem that Mahir would have logically
attempted to rename Chief Stand, Ishaq in reference to his Christian name
Isaac but, inshaa Allaah, that deception would be exposed as well.
If there was any semblance of Islam among Indians, it would seem that there
would at least be one Indian named Muhammad, as this is the most popular
name in the Islamic world and the world at large. However, I have not seen
the existence of this name among Indians, wa Allaahu â€کalam. Additionally,
even after the genocide waged upon us and the banning of our traditional
religions, these religions have still been able to survive, however we do
not find remnants of Islam surviving among American Indians. If anything
survived from Islam it would at least seem that the "pillars of Islam" would
have survived along with common terms and names, such as Allaah, Muhammad,
salaah, Ramadhaan, Islam.
Even among those Muslim slaves, that were brought over to America from
Africa, you could still find remnants of Islam among them and clues to their
being Muslims even today. Where are the remnants and clues among American
Indians? It is not that I believe it is not possible, however, I disagree
with Muslims making these assertions unless substantial evidence for such
claims can be provided. Making these assertions without providing the
incontrovertible evidence for such claims only destroys Muslim's integrity
and trustworthiness, and makes it just that much harder to have a dialogue
with and to present the Islamic da'wah to American Indians, wa Allaahul
The Messenger of Allaah, sallallaahu 'alayhi was sallam said, The Hour will
not begin until no one on earth still says, 'Allaah, Allaah.'" (Ahmad)
We do no even find the saying of "Allaah, Allaah" among the Indians.
Cities across the United States and Canada bear names that are of Indian and
Again, this is merely a claim with nothing offered to substantiate it. How
many cities across the US and Canada can be confirmed to have an Islamic
name origin with incontrovertible evidence, and can these names be proven to
have been given to them by Indians and Muslims or Indian Muslims? Some of
these places were actually given these "Islamic" names by "good ole American
white boys". Cities in the US have names that have name origins from all
over the world.
The best evidence is documents that actually show these place names to have
an Arabic origin such as the Pre-Columbian Arabic maps of the Americas,
Caribbean and Pacific Islands (Maps such Maui's map of Hawaii and the
Pacific, and al-Idrisi's map, etc.). Also, the pre-Columbian journals and
text of such Islamic voyages to Ard al-Majoolah or "the unknown land", i.e.
the Americas, or the "Sea of Darkness and Fog", i.e. the Atlantic Ocean
(Text such as al-Masudi's "The Meadows of Gold and Quarries of Jewels".).
And finally, those places that have Arabic inscriptions and those places
being known by Arabic names (Places such as the Muslim schools and Islamic
community in Pre-Columbian Nevada.).
Have you ever wondered what the name Tallahassee means? It means that He -
Allah will deliver you sometime in the future.
This is actually what is the most disappointing of all. Out of all the
Muslims who speak and are familiar with Arabic, could none of them have
unmasked this falsehood and let it be known that "Tallahassee" does not have
an Arabic meaning which translates as "He - Allah will deliver you sometime
in the future"? Shouldn't this have lead to the questioning of the
credibility of the entire article "Digging for the Red Roots"? Because of
such antics, now it is the credibility of the Muslims, who propagate such
falsehoods, that is questioned.
Tallahassee is a Mvskoke (Muskogee) word which means "old town" or like an
"old abandoned place", i.e. a "ghost town".
"It is only those who believe not in the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses,
lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allaah, who fabricate falsehood, and
it is they who are liars." (An-Nahl 16:105)
"Cursed be the liars," (Adh-Dhariyat 51:10)
Be warned brothers and sisters, there are other tales out there similar to
"Digging for the Red Roots". One is called "Reviving the Classical Wisdom of
Islam in the Cherokee Tradition" by Dr. Robert Dickson Crane (Faruq Abd'al
Haqq), who I plan to deal with in the future, inshaa Allaah. Also beware of
any treatise that refers to "Sequoyah's Syllabary" as having an Arabic
influence, or would refer back to "Digging for the Red Roots" or "Reviving"
as evidence and support for it's positions.
"Those who disbelieved and hinder (men) from the Path of Allaah, for them We
will add torment over the torment; because they used to spread corruption.
and He ta 'ala says,
"And those who do not witness falsehood, and if they pass by some evil play
or evil talk, they pass by it with dignity." (Al-Furqan 25:72)
The responsibility is upon the Muslims to stop such falsehood from spreading
and there are alternative texts that are actually based upon proofs and
evidences as it relates to Islam and American Indians, and Muslim
"adventures" in the Americas B.C. (before Columbus), wa billaahit tawfeeq.
Subhanak Allaahumma Wa bihamdika, Ashadu an la illaha illa Anta,
astaghfiruka wa a'toobu 'alaik.
Abu Muhammad Hasan Grooms al BeeDee